oddly enough i just started looking at those players...
the onda's appear to be just like the one's that amigajoe can get. which i did reply to his thread to see if he has one that he can sell me.
as for mp4nation, i thought they were one of the more "sketchy" places to buy from?
however, i am really digging this player...
http://www.mp4nation.net/products/index.php?PID=PC20
but in my opinion, knowing that they get these from china for only a few bucks apiece, i cant see spending $150 on this item.
i would rather buy a Zen Vision or MS Zune and get 30gb instead of 4gb
however, i dont mind the $70 price tag from amigajoe for the same thing that mp4nation sells for much more.
http://www.mp4nation.net/products/index.php?PID=OEMVX858LE