I purchased a "4gb" ChiPod Nano on ebay and ended up another victim of the memory hack. I have one of the units with the single 2gb chip inside.

I left the seller negative feedback and he wasn't too pleased.

Heres the feedback....

Quote: › 2gb not 4gb. See mympxplayer.com forums for details on this memory hack fraud!!! Reply by trading_hongkong: DISPATCH WRONG ITEM?LIFE TIME WARANTY!PLEASE CONTACT ME,PROVIDE REPLACEMENT !!!! Follow-up by tyannia1: So I got hacked player by mistake? EBAYERS CHECK PLAYERS FOR SAME MEMORY HACK!!!

Lol, funny right? He sent me an even more amusing email....

Quote: › Hi ,i saw you have left me a negative feedback , I really don't understand what you said , cos i just a stupid trader , buy from mainland china and sell on ebay, But i believe what you said, Please give a chance to settle this, Would you accept the following solutions,: 1. Partial Refund the different between 4G and 2G, 2. Return this item and Fully refund. 3. Return for replacement. Please let me know your chance, I would try my best to resolve this problem, please don't easy complaint me, as i am honest seller, not escape / ignore you. thx.

That email has "guilty" written all over it. My response.....

Quote: › Sorry that I exposed your fraud. If you want my feedback withdrawn I expect a full refund. If you refund my money and you want the player back you will also have to pay the return shipping.

Here's his ebay link....

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZtradingQ5fhongkong

I could care less if he refunds my money or not, I was just happy to leave him the feedback I did. I'll probably use my paypal buyer protection to try and get my money back anyways.

Oh boy, he must be extremely afraid of the damage my feedback will cause to his sales. Here's his reply to my demands, lol.....

Quote: › ok , fully refund and i pay for the postage , After you post it , give me the tracking code , then i fully refund back immediately. when receive it i sent the postage fee and you withdraw my feedback , ok?

Should I take his offer or let him burn? I think I'll let him burn, or demand my refund plus return shipping first before I send back anything.

EDIT: I just did a search of the company on the return address he gave me and found some interesting info. He claims to be a "stupid seller" that buys from mainland China, but the company on the return address "On Chase Limited" is the actual manufaturer of this bogus device.

Here is quote from Alibaba.com about On Chase Limited....

Quote: › Based in Hong Kong, our group comprises factories in Asia that manufacture OEM and aftermarket consumer electronics products. We believe in FACTORY DIRECT purchases. Our mission is to deliver Lower Prices and Better Quality to consumers and distributors worldwide. We operate from a distribution center in Hong Kong, where we perform sourcing, quality control and fulfillment. We strive to ensure that our products are reliable, updated and that our transactions are smooth and speedy. We are positioned to bring you the latest consumer electronic products and accessories globally and round the clock.

He is a complete fraud and my ebay feedback will stay just as it is to show others his plans to rip them off.

Another reply by me.....

Quote: › I thought you said you where just a "stupid seller" that buys from mainland China? If this is true, why is On Chase Limited listed on Alibaba.com as a manufacturer of quote "Games , Mobile Phones , MP3 Players , Joysticks & Game Controllers"? You know exactly what your selling and now your trying to get out of being exposed. I will not accept your offer for a refund. Your feedback will stay as it is to expose you so hopefully others will not make the same mistake.

OMG, wtf does this mean? Is he trying to get away!!!

Quote: › This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: tradinghongkongebay@gmail.com

h8isgr8

Looks like he's still selling them on eBay.

Looking at this feedback, he's had a lot of positive feedback. I wonder whether buyers haven't completely filled up their player yet to find out whether it's hacked or not.

I think I'm going to start up a thread for 'hacked' eBay buyers to hopefully warn others about this sort of thing.

Lucky for you it's a 2GB chip as I've heard stories from others that they've had a 128MB chip instead!! Imagine the surprise thinking you bought a 4GB player and only getting 128MB??!

Hey admin, thats a great idea, I had mentioned about asking you to start a thread for hacked players in one of my posts earlier this week so Im glad you have decided to go ahead with that. It will be a good tool for people to use before they buy a player on ebay - well for those of whom who will discover mympxplayer.com before they buy - which helps them by saving them time, the headache and money ofcourse!

bsaylors

Yeh, that's the difficult bit. Majority of the times, people come to the site AFTER they've bought the player looking for help and explanation as to why the memory has decreased....... by then alittle too late.

Hopefully having the thread might help those who found the site before they buy it................

Yes, I was one of the unlucky ones that discovered this site after the fact.

As far as that sellers other feedback is concerned, I'm sure is has a lot to do with ignorant buyers. I mean that in the nicest way. A lot of people who by them probably have little knowledge of the workings of such a device and when they encounter the memory corruption past 2gb the prolly just say "oh well".

Another reason could be that most people bought units advertised as less than 4gb and where actually the size advertised.

Here are some more email replies by this seller. He is really squirming.

Quote: › Sir, you misunderstand , Iam not a manufacturer, just buy and sell from china , you should know there is no factory in Hong Kong now, The register on Alibiba just wrong Choosing. I will change the supplier, I promise that fully refund and pay all the postage fee, why you still against me?? Please give me a chance to resolve it.

another.....

Quote: › Actually , i have two supplier, are you receiving the one have "mp4 digital player" on the screen glass, I think the problem is come from that lots of mp4, For the Alibiba register, just i register it as manufacturer can attract more customer , as you see my profile dont have a factory address. Do you understand that?? Please give me a chance!!!!!

well, i know

admin wrote (View Post): › bsaylors Yeh, that's the difficult bit. Majority of the times, people come to the site AFTER they've bought the player looking for help and explanation as to why the memory has decreased....... by then alittle too late. Hopefully having the thread might help those who found the site before they buy it................

basically i agree with your opinion, i come across this forum after i've bought my mp4 player. how do i know this forum? well because the software they provided in their cd not functioning, so i have to use the source of internet. and i find this forum really helpful and immediately i registered myself.

before i buy my mp4, i have do some research as well in the internet, know their features and try to find as many info as possible like capasity, screen size, and format they play. my only comparison is ipod nano. i prefer my mp4 to have big screen size, big capasity at lease 512 MB and as thin as possible. also i wish it can play wmv format. thats my minimum requirement. i end up buying ipod clone with 1G capasity and 18 screen size. my regret after buying it, is it's not TFT screen. the salesman never mention this when selling the product to me. anyway i don't blame him. because that really will confuse me more if he told me that point. he might not even been able to close the sales. haha

I believe we should start a thread of ebayers who have been found to sell hacked players so we can get them down to a list so people interested in buying one would know who not to buy from...
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starting with:
mediabsolute
(he wanted to give me 10$ back for a 94$ player because "one of the chips may be broken" and that was "the difference between a 2GB and a 4GB")

Well I just received mine via the HK trail and I can confirm it will take 4 gb, was the first thing I did load it up.

Sound is good with a descent set of earphones.
Manual is a joke thou and the mini cd with drivers is also a waste of space, I would suspect most problems are due to lack of knowledge being unable to format and navigate the menus, but I am very happy with mine.

I would be very careful discrediting this particular seller they are shipping lots of units
And are making a lot of money upset them at your peril

For my MP4 which is exactly the same as h8isgr8. i cannot put anything on the device as i am unable to format it. Please help!!!! I would accept if it was 2gb. I just need to know how to start off. Thanks. Please reply

RST999RST,
You can format it in Windows by right clicking and selecting Format FAT.
There are also a number of formating tools ind the Downloads>Tools section you could try.
MP3 Player Utilities also includes a Disk Tool that will format the player for you , set it to do a low level format.

Me again the happy soul with his 4 gb player…

For some unknown reason the windows format didn’t work no idea why. Maybe it’s because it’s been pre formatted in raw format. Anyway I use the standalone tool from this web site thanks for that. At first it came up error unable to format but it did??? In fat

Also I needed to change the drive letter to “p drive” as it wouldn’t show in my computer .
once all that was done and I was able to see the p drive and open just the drive and drag and drop your music folders easy when you know how
Hope this helps you…..

For some unknown reason the windows format didn’t work no idea why. Maybe it’s because it’s been pre formatted in raw format.

also what is the standalone tool from this website. Also how do you rename the drive. Thanks for your help so far!

Go to your control panel and click admin tools then computer management

From the left choose disk management; ok make sure your mp4 players is switched on and its showing the USB icon screen.

Can you see you’re your mass media mp4 player drive?
Does it say something like 24mb you may need to scroll down to see the drive,
If yes right click the panel and choose change drive letter an other small window will pop up press the change button to something other then one your already using..

You might want to try the format from here to right click and format

the format tool i use was from this site try looking in the download section...

Quote: › I would be very careful discrediting this particular seller they are shipping lots of units And are making a lot of money upset them at your peril

Wtf is that supposed to mean? I could care less who I "upset", I'm the one who got ripped off. They can choke on a fortune cookie and die for all I give a sh*t.

As far as formatting the player; I had to use the HPUSBFW.exe utility and THEN the format tool that comes on the disk. It seems the hack tries to keep you from formating the memory as to not "expose" the truth.