Hi,

i literelly just bought a 4gb mp4 from buymall...and i paid it straight away.

I then thought i look at feedback and came across negative feedback and reference to this site.

I dont know much about mp3 players but thought that a 4gb would be good to buy as its a decent size for my needs. How would i check if the player i get is actually a 4gb???

and what do i do if it isnt...would you just report it to ebay and paypal.

What does hacked mean?

Hi Samruti,
The way I confirmed the size of my MP3 player was to follow some suggestions on here.
The first thing I did was to upload as much data as I could to utilise the 4GB capacity. I found however that after around the 1GB mark everything was corrupted and unreadable.
I then used the MP3 utility and turned off the disk encyption by sliding the slider all the way to the left.
I found that this made the drive 1GB which is its real capacity.
I have since lodged a claim with Paypal.
I will only be happy with either a full refund or a replacement 4GB unit as that was my intended purchase. I wont be happy with a partial refund.

samruti, Hacked is when they take a small memory chip and then make it read much larger. If you bought a 4GB chiPod it is pretty much going to be hacked. At present 2GB is the most memory that they can support.

You are entitiled to a full refund including shipping.

"How to get full refund and how to expose fraudulent sellers?
Check if the seller is still actively listing the same counterfeit items right now!
After confirmimg receiving counterfeit item, you should complete the Item Not Received or Significantly Not as Described process dispute after 10 days of item closing date so that eBay or Paypal is alerted of the development of fraudulent situation. If you have paid by Paypal, you can also complete the Paypal Buyer Complaint Process to get refund from Paypal within 45 days.
Since you have NOT been provided with what you have paid for, it does not falls into seller's return policy. You are covered by the 90 days protection period under eBay Standard Purchase Protection Program.
Unless these fraudsters would risk their eBay account for permanent suspension, they will for sure be in contact with you quicker than anything else. You then regain control of the situation and the power is again on your side.
Counterfeit is FRAUD, do not settle with the seller unless the seller is paying for all the associated return shipping cost of the item.
You still own the right to provide negative feedback against the seller to alert the fraudulent situation to warn other eBayers.
Provided that you have provided negative feedback to the seller and if subsequently the seller provides you with an unfair retaliatory negative feedback, you have a case to lodge against the seller by requesting eBay for feedback removal to fully protect your feedback.
Effectively you will get your money back either from the seller or from eBay/Paypal. Most important by going through this, you have assisted the process of exposing fradulent sellers on eBay, which will result in permanent suspension of the seller's account.
In most countries, FRAUD is a CRIMINAL offense and injunctions may be brought against the fraudsters to prevent them from moving on under a different name after being banned. Thus, you may choose to contact your law enforcement agencies or each respective brand manufacturers in your region, to report counterfeit and provide them with your item detail and the source of the item."

You may also need to get a 3rd party to confirm that the player does not meet the specs of the player you purchased and if possible a high resolution photo of the open player so that the serial number on the memory chip can be clearly read.

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Are there any suppliers (on ebay) that actually sell a legitimate 4GB unit. As i'm after a 4GB unit pretty much only. Not interested in anything smaller.
If so can the supplier name be supplied.
So far ive purchased 2 x 4GB units. one turned out to be 1GB and the other became dead before I had a chance to tell.
Cheers

zacspeed,
These players support a maximum of 2GB nand flash memory so stay away from 4GB and up chiPods.

If you want a true 4GB player you need to look at the more expensive ones like the Meizu M6 (4GB approx $199.00 USD) or the Teclast T29 (4GB approx $149.00 USD).

www.houseofdap.com

You might also consider the Sandisk Sansa e250 to e280 players if you want to get something that is legitimate and fairly priced. It comes in various capacities as follows: Sansa e250 is 2 GB, e260 is 4 GB, e270 is 6 GB and the e280 is 8 GB. All are flash memory based and allow for expansion via a microSD card slot. The battery is apparently removable and replaceable. The players are available with product reviews posted (for what they're worth) at Tigerdirect.com and Futureshop.ca and should be widely available elsewhere as they are Sandisk products.

PayPal Dispute Resolution is a joke. They expected me to pay shipping costs to return my player to Buy.Mall! and only recieve less than half of what I paid in total. What a load of bullsh*t!

Hi

I am a newbie to this site and the reason I joined was that I too bought c*** players from unscrupulous eBay sellers (3 to be precise, they were for gifts for family members). They were all from different sellers (as they all wanted different kinds of players!).

One of them I only managed to squeeze an £8 refund from, the other told me to return it for a full refund - minus the £6 P&P it cost me to return - and now they have filed an 'Unpaid Item Complaint' against me, which I have appealed against (3 times now) and provided proof of the original payment PLUS a tracking number for the returned item AND eBAY ARE DOING SWEET FA TO HELP ME!!). It seems that eBay only want to help the sellers who pay the fees and NOT innocent buyers.

I also have an 'Unpaid Item Strike' against me that they will not remove because I refused to send a cheque for am iPod Nano that didn't exist (they knew it didn't exist because a large number of buyers were scammed by this person and eBay closed his account down - yet they still wouldn't remove the strike!! I asked them if they wanted me to send my money to a con-man and lose it, but they ignored me. I have appealed for them to remove this strike 10 times now - just for nuisance value!!)

Oh, yes I forgot the 3rd one - the seller went out of business before I coukd even complain to ebay about that one!

Sorry to drone on, but this is the only release I have for my fury - eBAY WON'T LISTEN!!!!


PPS Also, PayPal is no guarantee either - as I found out to my cost - I won a refund through them but was told by PayPal that, "the seller has no funds in their account so we are uable to refund you" - yet they keep saying that the "safest way to pay is through PayPal" - YEAH RIGHT!

Can't your CC company do something? Here (Netherlands) we can claim our money back up to 45 days after the withdrawl.

No, I'm afraid not. When I tried to claim the money back from them they said that I needed to try to retrieve the money again from PayPal.

I feel so dumb.
I bought from buy.mall yesterday and only after that, i found about this forums and read about all the scam. grrrr, i bought a 4gb unit, hopefully it is at least 2gb!
Is there anyway i can recover my money immediately or do i have to wait for the damn thing to arrive and make a complain in ebay?
that bastard should be impaled, dishonest people make me so furious

No need to feel dumb, all of us on here seems to have fallen prey - I too only found this forum AFTER I had bought THREE of the damned things!!
I am afraid I can give you no glimmer of hope re: eBay, they really don't give a flying fig - I just keep bombarding them with e-mails and details of transactions - and they go on ignoring me!!!!

Oh! and I don't like to be the bringer of bad news, but one of the 4GB players I bought is only 1GB - that is in dispute also.

I really do hope that you are one of the lucky ones - I personally will NEVER buy one of these players from eBay ever again, I'd rather pay more and be sure that I am getting what I pay for - GOOD LUCK!!