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vtr

Netherlands NL Gelderland
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:34 am   Post subject: Question MP4 shows black screen with hourglass Back to top 



My nameless MP4 player as above and 4G capacity, with "Samsung chip" and "Anyka" definition document on a cd-rom, workt properly untill I try'd to put him off, the screen displayd very quick something like "error data.." and after that nothing more then a black screen with a hourglass within.

Turning off and on does not help, putting out the battery (for 2 days) does not help even so, when turning on only the black screen with hourglass appears.

My computer say's: "found a new USB device" but can't view or install it because of an undefinable reason?? he did not had any problems earlier.
I use Windows XP Home.

Can somebody help me with this probably simple problem?

Tanks a lot!!!


Last edited by vtr on Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:00 am; edited 1 time in total

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vtr

Netherlands NL Gelderland
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:52 am   Post subject:  Re: MP4 shows black screen with hourglass Back to top 

OH.. forgot to tell;

The MP4 player did connect to my computer in the past with no problems.

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_Jim_
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Luxembourg
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:07 am   Post subject:  Re: MP4 shows black screen with hourglass Back to top 

Hi;

Well, I have the same problem since yesterday.

It appeared as I was having a meeting and needed some more space on my mp4-Player. Therefore I wanted to delete all songs. But the "delete" procedure took me too long and I decided to turn the player off while deleting after 20 minutes.
after turning him on, I got (still have) black screen with hourglass.

Wanting to make a format using my computer, I had to discover that my mp4 player cannot be recognised anymore.

Has anyone maybe solved this problem yet, and how ? I would appreciate any help or ideas.

Thank you very much

Best regards
Jim

P.s. I have got the 8GB version

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_Jim_
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Luxembourg
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:11 pm   Post subject:  Re: MP4 shows black screen with hourglass Back to top 

Hi;

I have opened the player and found this serial :

QY-066Av1
2007.03.20

My PC recognises that there is an USB Device; but I can't install the AdfuUpdate.inf Sad located in my Windows folder, nor the one located in the download section.

Does anyone has an idea what would be a next step ?

Greetings

Jim

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alanm

United Kingdom
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:14 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

did you have any luck with replies i have the same
_Jim_ wrote (View Post): › ;p="38699"]
Hi;

I have opened the player and found this serial :

QY-066Av1
2007.03.20

My PC recognises that there is an USB Device; but I can't install the AdfuUpdate.inf Sad located in my Windows folder, nor the one located in the download section.

Does anyone has an idea what would be a next step ?

Greetings

Jim

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_Jim_
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Luxembourg
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:07 pm   Post subject:  Re: MP4 shows black screen with hourglass Back to top 

Helloa Alanm;

Well, I haven't had any reply actually.

I think that the basic solution will be to get any working firmware onto the player.
But the first problem to be solved, is to get you player recognised as a "ADFU Device" by Windows.
In fact, as I alread mentioned, windows detects an unknown USB Device, but cant't get any information out of the AdfuUpdate.inf file located in */Windows/ for our kind of player.
So as long as we have no possibility to get any dataflow working between the payer itself and windows, I guess, we are stuck onto a dead player showing up an hourglass for ages Rolling Eyes

What have you already been trying onto your player ?

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_Jim_
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Luxembourg
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:40 am   Post subject:  MP4 shows black screen with hourglass Back to top 

Please note, that shortcutting the capacitor's won't be the solution, as it turns off for a second and comes back to the black screen with the hourglass again.
The player himself is not "dead", he is just trying to read on memory endlessly.
For example; when you start you Glacier, he is trying to get back to the last position he has got when you shut him down (last song played for example).
But if in any case, this position has wanished, he will be searching it endlessly. (I turned the player off during deleting all my files because it took me too long Twisted Evil ).
So it only has to be set to factory settings again. Like the "reset" button on your PC Cool
But I haven't found any "reset" method yet...

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alanm

United Kingdom
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:30 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

ive tried everything on the site jim with no sucess still looking for the adfu device driver tried everything i can think of maybe someone can come up with solution ????
_Jim_ wrote (View Post): ›
Please note, that shortcutting the capacitor's won't be the solution, as it turns off for a second and comes back to the black screen with the hourglass again.
The player himself is not "dead", he is just trying to read on memory endlessly.
For example; when you start you Glacier, he is trying to get back to the last position he has got when you shut him down (last song played for example).
But if in any case, this position has wanished, he will be searching it endlessly. (I turned the player off during deleting all my files because it took me too long Twisted Evil ).
So it only has to be set to factory settings again. Like the "reset" button on your PC Cool
But I haven't found any "reset" method yet...

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alanm

United Kingdom
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:46 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

jim read on another site to change sttings in inf update added this line to it so looks like this
[Version]
Signature="$CHICAGO$"
Class=USB
ClassGUID={1181f4a0-f284-11d2-9068-00609797ea5a}
provider=%MSFT%
DriverVer=04/07/2004,1.0.0.0
LayoutFile=layout.inf

[Manufacturer]
%MfgName%=Upgrade

[Upgrade]
%USB\VID_10D6&PID_xxxx.DeviceDesc%=MDisk.install,USB\VID_10D6&PID_ff66
%USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc%=MDisk.install,USB\VID_10D6&PID_8888
%USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc%=MDisk.install,USB\VID_10D6&PID_ff51

;[PreCopySection]
;HKR,,NoSetupUI,,1

[DestinationDirs]
umss.files = 10,System32\Drivers

[MDisk.install]
CopyFiles=umss.files
AddReg=umss.addreg

[MDisk.install.NT]
CopyFiles=umss.files
AddReg=umss.addreg

[MDisk.install.NT.Services]
Addservice = AdfuUd, 0x00000002, AdfuUd_AddService

[AdfuUd_AddService]
DisplayName = %USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 3 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %10%\System32\Drivers\AdfuUd.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Base

[umss.addreg]
HKR,,DevLoader,,*ntkern
HKR,,NTMPDriver,,AdfuUd.SYS

[umss.files]
AdfuUd.sys

[SourceDisksNames]
1000 = "USB Mass Storage Device",,,

[SourceDisksFiles]
AdfuUd.SYS = 1000

;---------------------------------------------------------------;

[Strings]
MSFT="MP3 Player"
MfgName="MP3 Player"
USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc="ADFU USB Device"
now getting driver to install but says a file missing ????????quote="alanm";p="38797"]
ive tried everything on the site jim with no sucess still looking for the adfu device driver tried everything i can think of maybe someone can come up with solution ????
_Jim_ wrote (View Post): ›
Please note, that shortcutting the capacitor's won't be the solution, as it turns off for a second and comes back to the black screen with the hourglass again.
The player himself is not "dead", he is just trying to read on memory endlessly.
For example; when you start you Glacier, he is trying to get back to the last position he has got when you shut him down (last song played for example).
But if in any case, this position has wanished, he will be searching it endlessly. (I turned the player off during deleting all my files because it took me too long Twisted Evil ).
So it only has to be set to factory settings again. Like the "reset" button on your PC Cool
But I haven't found any "reset" method yet...

[/quote]

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lattesurf
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Australia AU South Australia
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:49 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

_Jim_ , i think your problem happened because of the memory hack initially present in your player. There isin't any real evidence of 8GB players except for branded chinese players. So likely yours could be a 1-2GB chip hacked to show 8GB.

When you performed a delete using the player, what happens is that the player would attempt to delete everything, maybe 3-4GB or more files depending on what "stored" in it. If your player only had a 1GB chip, the excess 2-3GB would be "overwritten" on the existing 1GB area including the firmware section.

So when you deleted the files, the "3-4GB" was deleted, with it corrupting the firmware, or perhaps even deleting it.

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vtr

Netherlands NL Gelderland
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:23 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

lattesurf
thats an clear explanation and I think ive got that problem too, but what must I do to make him do what he has to do: playing music files.
i'm desperate.

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vtr

Netherlands NL Gelderland
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:38 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Jim
Als je een zoekopdracht doet op deze site voor de AdfuUpdate.inf file zal je hem vinden.
Hierna moet je de "dead player recovery guide" in de dead players rubriek volgen en windows de AdfuUpdate.inf file laten vinden op je pc waar je deze opgeslagen hebt.

Is mij ook zo gelukt, maar ben nog niet verder gekomen als dit.

Als jij wel verder komt moet je me ff vertellen wat je gedaan hebt.

Succes!!

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_Jim_
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Luxembourg
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:59 am   Post subject:  MP4 shows black screen with hourglass - AdfuUpdate.inf Back to top 

Hi Alanm;

Thank you for your adfuUpdate.inf
I don't know the version of your mp4 player, but your adfuUpdate.inf didn't work. So I identifyed my mp4 player with my Linux Workstation, and changed so my AdfuUpdate.inf file in order to recognize my MP4 Player:

QY-066Av1
2007.03.20

So If any of you has this player, you have to change your AdfuUpdate.inf located in your /Windows/ folder to this :




[Version]
Signature="$CHICAGO$"
Class=USB
;ClassGUID=1181f4a0-f284-11d2-9068-00609797ea5a}
provider=%MSFT%
DriverVer=08/20/2004,2.0.0.0
LayoutFile=layout.inf

[Manufacturer]
%MfgName%=Upgrade

[Upgrade]
%USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc%=MDisk.install,USB\VID_10D6&PID_ff61
%USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc%=MDisk.install,USB\VID_10D6&PID_8888
%USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc%=MDisk.install,USB\VID_10D6&PID_ff51

;[PreCopySection]
;HKR,,NoSetupUI,,1

[DestinationDirs]
umss.files = 10,System32\Drivers

[MDisk.install]
CopyFiles=umss.files
AddReg=umss.addreg

[MDisk.install.NT]
CopyFiles=umss.files
AddReg=umss.addreg

[MDisk.install.NT.Services]
Addservice = AdfuUd, 0x00000002, AdfuUd_AddService

[AdfuUd_AddService]
DisplayName = %USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 3 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %10%\System32\Drivers\AdfuUd.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Base

[umss.addreg]
HKR,,DevLoader,,*ntkern
HKR,,NTMPDriver,,AdfuUd.SYS

[umss.files]
AdfuUd.sys

[SourceDisksNames]
1000 = "USB Mass Storage Device",,,

[SourceDisksFiles]
AdfuUd.SYS = 1000

;---------------------------------------------------------------;

[Strings]
MSFT="MP3 Player"
MfgName="MP3 Player"
USB\VID_10D6&PID_1160.DeviceDesc="USB 2.0 (FS) ADFU Device"




To use this file propperly, you have to plug-in your player to USB Smile and wait for Windows to ask for drivers.
There you have to get your software drivers FROM A LIST !
Next, DONT let Windows search for drivers, but select your driver yourself
Take "all devices"
"Have Disk"
and select your new edited AdfuUpdate.inf in Windows Folder

Et voilą Cool

Now, we have our ADFU Device in Windows, but we cannot read nor write on it.
Now, Get to your mp3 Utility, and chose firmware upgrade tool, open your firmware file, and start upgrading.

@Lattesurf :

Yes, you are right with the memory hack. that's why he is trying to delete or read on non existing memory Rolling Eyes

But, can I change the memory hack to normal, while my player is still an ADFU device ?

@ vtr

euh;... thank you, but I only speak Luxemburgish, German, French and English, so I can't unserstand you Confused


I hope, my post helped some of you; and if someone finds a firmware for this player : QY-066Av1 2007.03.20 ; could you please upload it to the download section and make me a wink Wink

That would be great, I haven't found any working firmware until now Embarassed

Best regards
Jim

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lattesurf
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Australia AU South Australia
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:24 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

_Jim_ , usually when a player goes through the ADFU stage, and flashing of firmwares, the hack would be removed.

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It`s like an MP3 Player which plays Music CDs only.


T39 doesn''t sound as good as my T29
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_Jim_
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Luxembourg
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:42 am   Post subject:  Re: MP4 shows black screen with hourglass Back to top 

Lattesurf;

Thank you for you reply. That was what I was hoping for.

I think the "hourglass" problem has finaly been solved by editing the adfuUpdate.inf file.

Thank you for all your ideas and comments; and an sepcial thank to the Forum Team spending hours and hours keeping this forum alive.

If I find any working firmware for my player. I will post a link Smile

Regards
Jim

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