knob wrote (View Post): › Done the first Battery test on this player ... I ran the player down completely and recharged using the supplied wall charger. Total time to reach a full charge was 4 and a half hours. So I let the player run overnight with the backlight set to on all the time, playing mp3's random, at number 18 volume setting. The player ran for just over 7 and a half hours before it shut down. I will do a test now with the backlight off, which is the standard test, but so far not bad at all, better than I thought.

After all the adventures you have had with this player I think that I will buy one to my friend... you know to play a little opening it and dealing with software.

I would like to found a upgrade firmware provider for it. I know that rockchip is capable of display cover art... the problem is where to get the apropriate version.

Finally this player doesn't have the Wolfson chip

at the moment the only rockchip player with cover art are the Teclast T50/nationite s:flo, no other player nor update has yet been given to any older players

there were rumours of one last update to the ramos rm970 that would give album art but this has not surfaced as yet

knowing the way these chinese companies work they will never give an older player this ability but just build a new palyer to sell with album art in from the start, why make an older product better when all they want to do is grab more money from you, they aint in this business to make things easy and good for us, they are in it to make money

Quote: › there were rumours of one last update to the ramos rm970 that would give album art but this has not surfaced as yet

It is unbelievable that they can't be *rsed to put 2 lines of code in the firmware to do this simple task.

This is EASILY possible on ANY player that can play movies and display pictures.

Quote: › knowing the way these chinese companies work they will never give an older player this ability but just build a new palyer to sell with album art in from the start, why make an older product better when all they want to do is grab more money from you, they aint in this business to make things easy and good for us, they are in it to make money

Yes I tend to agree with this, It think it more likely that someone will hack the BASE.RKW first since the firmware on the RK27xx is much more accessable.

Quote: › Quote: › knowing the way these chinese companies work they will never give an older player this ability but just build a new palyer to sell with album art in from the start, why make an older product better when all they want to do is grab more money from you, they aint in this business to make things easy and good for us, they are in it to make money Yes I tend to agree with this, It think it more likely that someone will hack the BASE.RKW first since the firmware on the RK27xx is much more accessable.

Chinese supporters simply forget past devices... so its with my Onda VX858... to spent their time with their new products.

I don't know how acts Korean manufacturers for instance... or Apple for their infamous iPod Nano.

To be fair to the Chinese, the big brand names often also don't update the firmware for the same reasons, and it's shut down so tight that any modding is out of the question, except with say Sandisk Sansa where they co-operated with the Rockbox community.

I for example have a Philips, 1 firmware update, my partner has a Samsung Z5, 2 firmware updates, - not exactly spectacular support!

The truth is they don't want you to hang on to your old player too long, or make it too good, they want you to the next player instead, so it's really left to us to make the best of our players we can.

About the cover art thing - The Teclast M26 also supports cover art, this is confirmed by the Teclast OEM. Yeah, I know all of the talk about the RM970 supporting cover art. I think that this rumor is because Ramos released/leaked an early photo of the RM970 with a completely different screen shot showing cover art that was photoshopped in. It's too late for the RM970, Ramos has moved on.

About the disposable nature of things - Just the fact that these players have a rechargable battery that cannot be replaced because the player cannot be opened (without possibly damaging the unit) is another example how most manufacturers don't really expect users to keep these units. Hey, they would love to sell you a brand new unit every year instead of replacing your battery. Now, we as consumers, especially the mp4 player enthusiasts that we are, are going to buy the new ones every year anyway because we can't resist the new features, capability, and sex appeal of the newer product.

About the firmware update thing - I'm all with you that it would seem to be not such a big deal to update two lines of code. In a perfect world they would do this. Everytime the firmware is updated a good company has to have it tested thorougly to make sure that something didn't break in the fimware (sometimes just recompiling and linking the firmware can break something if you are not careful). Also, the engineers who worked on the original project may be busy working on some other project (with a nearing deadline) or those engineers may no longer be working for the company (China has a very high rate of engineers changing jobs, more so than the USA).

@knob... or other user of the new chip RK2706:

Is still for videos the audio codec MP2?...

of course out of the support from RMVB

DaremoS wrote (View Post): › @knob... or other user of the new chip RK2706: Is still for videos the audio codec MP2?... of course out of the support from RMVB

no, mp3 is fine oe on these new players, as is size, now not restricted to screen size, can be any size (within limits)

also a trick i found out, if you have files ending in "divx" of "xvid" just change the file extension to "avi" and they wil (should) work, no need to convert

newer rockchip player firmware now have 3gp, mpg, asf, wmv support also but i doubt the no brand players will have this yet, maybe in a couple of months when new stocks are introduced

makd511 wrote (View Post): › DaremoS wrote (View Post): › @knob... or other user of the new chip RK2706: Is still for videos the audio codec MP2?... of course out of the support from RMVB no, mp3 is fine oe on these new players, as is size, now not restricted to screen size, can be any size (within limits) also a trick i found out, if you have files ending in "divx" of "xvid" just change the file extension to "avi" and they wil (should) work, no need to convert newer rockchip player firmware now have 3gp, mpg, asf, wmv support also but i doubt the no brand players will have this yet, maybe in a couple of months when new stocks are introduced

Impressive!!!... thanks for the info makd511

So it has WMV???... is this with WMA as audio codec?

DaremoS wrote (View Post): › makd511 wrote (View Post): › DaremoS wrote (View Post): › @knob... or other user of the new chip RK2706: Is still for videos the audio codec MP2?... of course out of the support from RMVB no, mp3 is fine oe on these new players, as is size, now not restricted to screen size, can be any size (within limits) also a trick i found out, if you have files ending in "divx" of "xvid" just change the file extension to "avi" and they wil (should) work, no need to convert newer rockchip player firmware now have 3gp, mpg, asf, wmv support also but i doubt the no brand players will have this yet, maybe in a couple of months when new stocks are introduced Impressive!!!... thanks for the info makd511 So it has WMV???... is this with WMA as audio codec?

not sure if its with wma codec, not tested it that much
Newer rockchip players now have these codecs in but like i say, tthese no brand clones will either never see them or not for a while, the s:flo has them through an upgrade and the new 4.3" players from onda, ramos and ainol all will have them, plus the ainol v3000 has a remote control and tv out - should be interestingp plus a screen of 800x480!!! and LTPS - cant wait for that one, big but ...

Just tried a firmware RK2706 from this site:-

http://www.qqmp4.net/

Firmware booted up fine, dancing penguins an' all that, just the buttons wouldn't navigate.

So plugged the usb in copy my old firmware back, noticed the firmware partition didn't open up.

They use the sneaky FRK.tag to open the firmware partition, works fine if you just rename rkusb.tag to FRK.tag, just something to watch out for. It's referred to in REGISTER.DAT at the end.

Quote: › WSERIAL....J7NUSMW9VxKEsLIdfmklFeNBuHU.......S.............8...SYSTEM......8.....KR......../.........d...K...........&...........72....................H...FIX.........H............................P..........D:\FRK.TAG......D:\RK27SDK.RKW......rkregTag:.r.

They are getting more creative, just tried another Rk27xx firmware, same site but this time it's yuxtest1.yux to open the firmware, again I just renamed RKusb.tag to yuxtest1.yux to open up the firmware partition.

Quote: › 08..................................SWSERIAL....06A1YXE81H597UMH2W21C81CK2........D............. 8...SYSTEM......8.....KR......../.........d...K.......................72....................H...FIX.........H............................P..@.......D:\yuxtest1.yux.D:\YUX819.RKW.......rkregTag.^d.

Just hope they don't start using chinese characters or we're really stuffed

The idea of being able to safely back the firmware up on these players is going out of the window fast

Just found another variant yuxtest2.yux

Quote: › .T.................HARDWARE........032408..................................SWSERIAL.... 06A1YXE81H597UMH2W21C81CK2......,.T.............8...SYSTEM......8.....KR......../.........d...d.......................72....................H...FIX.........H............................P..........D:\yuxtest2.yux.D:\YUXa36.RKW.......rkregTag.)t?

you are certainly going for it here knob

how many are you trying!!!!

you know, i am not sure how they did this, but some guys over at ramos.net managed to create a mixed firmware from several different version of rm970 firmware, so it had much of the stale 2.10 code along with all the enhancements of later firmwares, when i load this onto my rm970 it tells me its verison 2.10, but it has all the video resume features etc of later firmwres

just a thought and i have not looked into what they did toy achieve this

www.ramos.net is the site and look for 2.10+2.23 posts

thought if we could fig out how they did it we may be able to get some bits into these no brand players

cheers

well knob, some players allow access to the hidden partition via holding a certain key down, like the rm970 can and a couple of the imitation rm970 players can also

so this may be a method to try if the tag files wont work

googling the YUX thing reveals some links on mydigit site and apparenty used by some new Hacha players

i think there will always be some way to get at the files, and it may be on a per player basis, or players type, like the rm970 and ones made in that style

and the tweezers along the memory chip is always our last resort as this opens the hidden partition also, raz was doing this with the s:flo until we found the tag file reference in the firmware