This guy claims that all his players are 8GB. When someone questioned why they arrive with only 0.98GB, he explains that there are 2 drives.. one being 0.98GB and the other 7.99GB
quote * This is a compressed 8GB flash drive, the 8GB capacity is for storing data files only; the actual playable and recordable capacity is 1GB

Scammer?.. i say add the mongrel to the blacklist!

Name: hailitele

[ hailitele on eBay ]

I also just bought from this guy before I came across this forum. I haven't received my player yet, but I know it's going to be 1GB. Why doesn't he have any negative feedbacks yet? I will leave him one when I get my player! I've also alerted some of recent buyers, see what happens.

He doesn't have any negative feedback because he probably has made an arrangement with the people he has scammed... like given partial refunds in exchange for positives or neutrals. Notice the "12 ratings mutually withdrawn"? They were most likely negatives.

If your player does turn out to be hacked demand a refund, and send him a link to this forum.

I'm confident that my player is 1GB. He has in fine, fine, fine prints the "capacity" issue. I have full intention to fight this with him. I just signed the petition

Here's the response I got:

Hi, thanks for your inquiry. The "Capacity" part is clearly stated in the item description, the 8GB is for acting as a 8GB USB flash drive for storing data files only, and the actual playable and recordable capacity is 1GB. t can hold 8GB of songs as data, but among them, only the songs locate in the first giga byte of the memory section are playable. Sorry, this is an eBay approved listing, please refuse or return the shipment for a full refund. I apologize for any inconvenience.

dealsearcher wrote (View Post): › Hi, thanks for your inquiry. The "Capacity" part is clearly stated in the item description, the 8GB is for acting as a 8GB USB flash drive for storing data files only, and the actual playable and recordable capacity is 1GB. t can hold 8GB of songs as data, but among them, only the songs locate in the first giga byte of the memory section are playable. Sorry, this is an eBay approved listing, please refuse or return the shipment for a full refund. I apologize for any inconvenience.

The above response is absolute and total bull$hit, in case anyone buys into it in the slightest.

I sent off a few messages to some current and old customers of his, asking if they were aware of the 1GB playable issue. Now hailitele reported me for spamming his customers and says ebay will suspend my account, which I don't care for that much. So in response I gave him the negative feedback he deserved. I was going to wait until I receive the player to do it, but why wait, he already flat out admit i was 1GB? If ebay suspends my account, there's no way for me to "retract" the negative feedback as he hopes. I just wish more people would know about his scheme.

I think this guy is probably lying about the 7gb of flash memory as well. Why would a player have the storage space for 7gb but not be able to play it? I bet it's hacked, so that it looks like you could put 7gb on the "storage" part when it's probably only 500mb or so. He figures no one will find out because who the hell needs 7gb of flash drive storage? So this guy is committing fraud in more ways than one.

Im sorry to say, but, it isn't his fault. You should just read the instructions right, because its stated there. Btw, and 8 GB player isn't that cheap, go figure.

sunburstX,

Can you explain what you mean in more detail when you say "..you should just read the instructions right, because its stated there"... Can you tell me what instructions they are?

I read the response AlbertaSatellite got and it sounds very incorrect.

Try to copy 8Gb data on player and then back to HDD. (preferably other PC). Data will be corrupt. Memory is hacked. No COMPRESSIONS. lame excuse

Hey i have taken these guys to paypal if anyone can help me to get them taken down tell me what to say and if i can get a copy of the petition please i gonna get them!!!! I bought 4 of them

Let me update what happened. I gave the seller a neg feedback and the seller responded with a neg feedback. which puts me in the low 90% since I have very few feedbacks. Naturally I can't afford the negative feedback from him. But I was determined to leave the neg feedback if he refused to refund me. He is banking on buyers who gave him neg to retract. He knows very well that neg feedbacks don't go well for the average joe. I requested for full refund (including shipping) and he gave in, and refused to withdraw the neg until I received my refund. I'm a little ashamed to say that I caved. I never even seen the player, refused shipment when it arrived at the door as agreed upon with seller. The delivery from China was very fast, took less than a week.

The negative feedback issue is a problem.

I received negative (my only one) from jungle.bookstore (aka jungle.foodstore, now no loger eBay registered).
I cannot even ask them to retract now..

So I emailed eBay.
Here's an excerpt:

"..I was concerned that I would receive negative.. ..so I asked eBay what I could do to safeguard myself. I was told there was nothing I could do.

I delayed leaving feedback until PayPal closed my case." (this was done without explanation) "Then I felt others needed to be warned of this seller seeing as PayPal was doing nothing (it was a matter of principle and I thought if it costs me AUD$80 to warn others so be it).

I was checking my PayPal account today and saw they had re-opened the case and were still reviewing it. That is when I checked the item again and saw I had been given negative feedback...

I think there needs to be a system in place to safeguard the plaintiff in a dispute case. The feedback system should reflect this by limiting the type of feedback the defendant can leave if the dispute is unresolved and especially when the case is found to be in the plaintiff's favour."

Maybe all of us who have unfairly received negatives need to complain to eBay so the system is revised to protect the buyers of fake goods.

I will update this board when I get a reply.

admin wrote (View Post): › I read the response AlbertaSatellite got and it sounds very incorrect.

Not sure what you mean by the above.

A bit of advice to people who are worried about negative feedback. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I used to sweat if I got a negative feedback, 100% of the time they were unjust negatives. If you give some righteous negative feedback, and they give you a retaliatory negative in return, at least you can feel good about the fact you DID THE RIGHT THING.

Hey all,

I wish i had seen this site sooner as i got a "BRAND NEW (3RD GENERATION) 8GB* 1.8” TFT MP3/MP4 PLAYER".

Also from hailitele.

I knew about the 1gb playable and recordable capacity but...

When I first got it there was 2 drives 1x8gb (DRIVE F) and 1x1gb (DRIVE G). I started to fill the 8gb up with music but when i unattached the player and went into music ... there would be sum folders missing. when i attached it back to comp the folders would be there but all messed up. so i formatted the 8gb now the drive g has disappeared and im only left with 1gb on drive f .

I guess this means hailitele is actually selling sum hacked players?