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The Blacklist
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Strummin'Ronin
I love my MPx player
I love my MPx player

United Kingdom UK City of London
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:44 pm   Post subject:  Re: The Blacklist Back to top 

And another one to the list:

webstorez

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When you buy cheap, you pay dear.
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Stoli40

Australia AU New South Wales
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:53 am   Post subject:  Re: The Blacklist Back to top 

Update on Ugoogle. I have sucessfully appealed the Unpaid Items strike against me from Ebay. Had to fax them direct but got there in the end.

Funny thing happened today, ugoogle attempted a mutual withdrawal of feedback. NOT A CHANCE.

Also, I've just noticed from reading the previous page, E-Britain and Ugoogle are the same people. They have the same PayPal ID's.

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Strummin'Ronin
I love my MPx player
I love my MPx player

United Kingdom UK City of London
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:05 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

Hi Stoli40. Glad to hear you successfully appealed the unpaid items strike. I think ebay is aware of an "unfair" strikes:
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/fvf-abuse.html


How did you find out about the strike against you, anyway?

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VitaminM
Keen on MPx players
Keen on MPx players

Vietnam
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:36 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

http://cgi.ebay.com/4GB-MP4-MP3-Player-Movie-TFT-LCD-4-G-Samsung-Memory-USB_W0QQitemZ190073508103QQihZ009QQcategoryZ98410QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Seller is mensa .
Not that I buy anything from this person but I see some neg feedback on him/her o_O ... weird that it is only a few when there is tons who bought it lolz .

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johnford

Australia
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:01 pm   Post subject:  Re: The Blacklist Back to top 

beware of fake mp4 players on ebay just got stung by (buy.mall!)thats hes name on ebay he sells as 4GB but only 1GB ripp off

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johnford

Australia
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:06 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

beware of ebay seller goes by the name of (buy.mall!) i just got stung sold as 4GB but 1GB ripoff

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johnford

Australia
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:14 pm   Post subject:  mp4 player Back to top 

hypmovator wrote (View Post): › Hi Everyone, like most of you if not all of you I have been scammed by Ugoole when I bought 2 x fake MP4's. I also sent countless emails to Ugoole and got the same bullshit replys offering partial refunds etc. Ebay and paypal are a complete waste of space and do nothing to help the victims. They only care about the profits they are making.

I decided to call the Sun newspaper and email them asking for their help in exposing this multi-million pound scam.

I ask all of you who have been scammed to join me and send you story to Charlie Ray - Consumer editor at the SUN and if enough of us do it they will investigate and not only expose the scammers like ugoole but also the tossers at ebay and paypal who ignore our please for help and just send automated emails that just add to the insult.

Ebay have a duty to protect us and they are getting away with murder. Let's all rise up and hit them where it hurts in their profits through bad exposure.

I have included my email I sent to the SUN below. Also remember the SUN are linked to SKY TV and if Sky get involved we could get the message around the world.

www.the-sun.co.uk

talkback@the-sun.co.uk

Subject: china £multi-million electronics scam on ebay! thousands of UK customers being ripped off every week

FAO: Charles Ray

Dear Charles

I am writing to you to ask for your help in exposing a scam on ebay in the form of fake memory hacked MP4’s that UK as well as global buyers are being ripped off every minute of everyday and no matter how many complaints are sent to ebay and their financial processing arm paypal they just turn a blind eye and will not protect consumers because they are making so much money in fees.

MY STORY

I have been using ebay and paypal for a number of years and as usual went on ebay on the 9th December to buy some last minute presents for my children. I specifically searched for MP4 players listed in the UK where the items location was listed as being in the UK because I wanted the items delivered in time for xmas.

I purchased 2 x 4gb MP4’s from an ebay seller called ugoole specifically because the item and seller were based in Preston UK (Fraud #1 – Actually based in China). The item never arrived in time for xmas, then over xmas I received an email from another ebayer warning of the scam and providing me with info on how to check my MP4 when it arrived and various sites that are trying to stop people getting ripped off as ebay who have been aware of the scam for a number of months will do nothing about it and continues to allow the crooks to sell there fake goods on ebay. Money and profit comes first for ebay – customers mean nothing to them.

My 2 x 4gb MP4’s arrived and as instructed I inspected the mp4’s and found that both were in fact only 1gb – the memory chip had been hacked to make it appear to the average buyer with not software or hardware experience or knowledge as a genuine 4gb MP4.

I complained to the seller, ebay and paypal and still I have 2 fake mp4’s and no resolution as after calling paypal today to complain once again I have been told that I the victim of the fraud must prove that the item is fake at my expense. The seller or crook ugoole can just wait and hope that like most people the ripped off buyer just gives up and puts it down to experience. I have lost £61.01 so far and to continue with the process of claiming my money back I need to get a third party independent electronics company to inspect the mp4’s and put in writing on a company letterhead the mp4’s are in only <1gb fake mp4’s which I will have to pay for and then if paypal agrees with my 3rd party I will then have to send the mp4 back to china not preston Uk registered once again at my expense.

The guy I spoke to at Paypal is called Chris (wouldn’t give surname) Senior agent European services 0870 307191 ext 4063. He promised to look into it. But will not confirm if he makes any progress hiding behind the data protection act.

This is happening to thousands of people.

THE BIGGER PICTURE

If you would be kind enough to visit the sites below you will find the full story and you will discover that thousands have been ripped off and even more are continuing to be ripped off and ebay and paypal will do nothing to stop it.

You would think that a company as large as ebay who make billions could put a call centre together to help victims of fraud, instead all the offer is an automated email service which is a total waste of time and resolves nothing.

I hope a paper with as much clout as yours could help others before they get ripped off. All you need to do is go on ebay do a search on mp4 players from buyers supposedly in the uk and you will see the scale of the sales and the rip offs. If you were to run and article in your paper and request anyone who has bought a mp4 on ebay to email you with their true feedback you will be surprised at how many respond. If you also showed the ebayers how to check their mp4 player properly you will also expose many thousands more who did not even know they had been ripped off.

China is having a huge impact on our lives now and in the future and consumers are going to continue to get ripped off unless someone like the sun or news of the world exposes these crooks.

PLEASE CHECK OUT THE FOLLOWING SITES FOR MORE BACKGROUND INFO AND TO SEE THR TRUE SCALE OF THESE CRIMES

http://www.xbox0.co.uk/

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/The-Official-Fake-4GB-MP4-Player-Scam-On-eBay-FAQ_W0QQugidZ10000000002547758

THERE ARE LOTS OF LINKS WITHIN THE SITES ABOVE WITH MORE INFO. IF YOU CHECK OUT THE BLACKLIST ON XBOX0.CO.UK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO VIEW THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ALL SAYING THE SAME THING YET EBAY AND PAYPAL WON’T ACT TO STOP THE CHINESE MP4 MAFIA.

Check out the amount of sales and x by average order £30-35 = £multi-millions

Please call me if you would like to discuss further.

I am quite happy to send fake mp4’s to you if you like to verify my claims.

I hope you will take up this case and stop UK citizens being ripped off.

Kind Regards

hypmovator
this guy buys from (buy.mall!) on ebay who i just got sung off

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piglet uk

United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:52 pm   Post subject: Hehehe ! Re: The Blacklist Back to top 

Twisted Evil BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Twisted Evil

MENSAN 666 has changed his ebay user ID to MENSAN64 Exclamation

You can run but you can't hide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laughing

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auser

United Kingdom
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:25 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

I notice the partition to change ebay's handling of MP4
auctions is gaining pace Smile

At the same time, I notice an advert link to a site selling
step by step instructions for avoiding e-bays most
powerful means of control (suspension), should they
choose at some stage to use it Sad

Ironinc that my providing info about a bad seller
also promotes such things.

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lekior

Spain
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:41 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

add "coolstuff_onlinestore"

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russinsandiego

USA US California
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:52 am   Post subject:  Re: The Blacklist Back to top 

You can add COLORDRIVES to the list of sellers of fraudulent MP4 players.

Details at http://schnapp.org/e-britain_ripoff/

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Strummin'Ronin
I love my MPx player
I love my MPx player

United Kingdom UK City of London
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:20 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Hey Russ, what version of firmware does your white chipod use? Please could you upload it to mympxplayer?

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jackfisher

Canada CA Alberta
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:59 am   Post subject:  Re: The Blacklist Back to top 

updared list
mediabsolute
lcdguard
kcshophk
blown-z
bestmp4
chinadragonsell
inno_onlinestore
jeo-guy625
platinumteam01
sky_tower
mp3_exp
buy.mall
citipower
eshopwindow
jeanwaye
pars-digital
mars-digital
midalap
bitatbid
ugoogle
e-britain
computercityinc.net
newcomdigi
alycate co
powersellerturbo bestzmarket
donnahill222
donnahill22

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auser

United Kingdom
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:38 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Positive feedback!
mp4plus sold me a 2GB 1.8 inch MP4 (AMV) player which is actually 2GB (verfied by RDiskUtility partition tab and allows 2GB files to be stored without corruption)
for a bargain price (<£18 inc).
Currently he has 100% feedback but he hasn't been trading long. Interesting to see if his 4GB MTVs are also genuine (although AMV is superior). How long before genuine MP4 format players are cheap?

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mekako
MPx Junkie
MPx Junkie

United Kingdom UK England
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:27 pm   Post subject:  Re: The Blacklist one_stop_store has changed to themp4world Back to top 

Here's one for the blacklist!

One_stop_store has changed his name to themp4world


This trader on E Bay is selling lots of player, he claims they are 8Gb which in fact they are not, and also claims that the said item is in London UK, player came from Hong-Kong. After formatting the player with AMV convert tool 3.68 the true size of the memory shows which is like most of the others here turns out to be 2GB.

I have been informed by the seller that it was sent by mistake due to the high demand, and was sent direct from the factory, because they had ran out of stock in his London department.

I have asked the seller for the item which I clearly paid for, all he wants me to do is return it back to Hong-Kong. which I will not do as I purchased it as an item in the UK, and do not see why I should have to send it back to him in Hong-Kong.

He states that he has a London department and that is who I will deal with! not someone who is six and half thousand miles away.

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